IPTV PANAMA: tháng 7 2020

– [Narrator] Madeline and her husband have both been sentmultiple times to the ER based on the wounds they have received from their two Amazonparrots, Cho and Gizmo.

Gizmo was previously a breeder bird, while Cho is around 16 years old, and Gizmo's around 20 years old.

The main issue that they have had have stemmed from hormones.

So those of you that continueto do hormonal behaviors with your birds claiming it's natural, this is a sight into your future.

They can no longer handle these birds, and have to do so with perches now.

– And we didn't get any pictures I think, of when I got this one.

– I've just got you in theER sitting but there's no (bird caws) – [Narrator Off camera] Andthat's all from the Amazon or is that from? – [Madeline] That's all from the Amazon – [Narrator Off Camera] Just one of them? – [Madeline] His on histongue is from Gizmo, and both of mine are from him, you see he starts gettingthat like lunging? He starts to do that andI'm like something is wrong, he's gonna go at me.

– [Narrator Off Camera] I love this, you guys were watching us.

(laughs) (bird caws) (upbeat music) – [Narrator Off Camera]Now we start our in home consultations off by always seeing whatkind of training the owner has already done with the bird.

Here he's getting a littlebit of a response from the Amazon, but this Amazonis very distracted by being taken out in frontof the other Amazon and the Grey that's in the room.

They have this funkydynamic between their two male Amazons and their one female African Grey.

The two Amazons seem tobe kind of fighting over attention for the AfricanGrey, so it causes this dynamic between the two males where they're calling back and forth.

So this one seems sodistracted and we can't hear each other overtheir calling, that we move to another room to see if this will lessen the effect thatthe other Amazon's having on this one coming out.

To our disappointment, they just call louder to each other from this room.

So as you can see bythe body language alone, I've muted it for you guys' ears, but you can tell by thetail fanning that it's about to happen and justthose raised feathers you can tell that this bird is being very vocal, that it's communicating with the other one, getting very worked up about about it.

We just can't get anysort of training response.

So we try a few different things.

We try changing the treat.

We try changing the trainer.

We try bringing in theAfrican Grey to see if that will calm the Amazon down, but that just serves as a distractionand ultimately it ends up turning on the Grey who goes to try to find a nesting spot.

All of the things thatwe try to figure out as solutions backfired in our faces.

If you're wondering whywe didn't just take out both Amazons so they wouldstop calling back and forth, the reason is isthat the owners have told us that they do not get along and they will physically fight each other.

All the birds are fully flighted, which has led to someof those attack photos you saw in the verybeginning of this video, where some of those were flighted attacks.

So we trust them and based on the photos we really don't want to be breaking up a physical altercation between two Amazons.

So that's why we didn't try bringing out both Amazon's at the same time and having that dynamic happen.

When we sit down tobrainstorm some solutions, Dave and I just kind ofcome to the realization that because the overall dietof these birds is so junky and full of fillersand sugars and crap we are left with no treatvalue that is bigger than the dynamic of, orthe reinforcement of, being able to call back and forth.

So we realized we reallyneed to conquer the diet.

We ask these owners hey why didn't you change over the diet? They bought all the products, they have all the tools to do so, but they wereunsuccessful in actually doing it.

They just said they gotdiscouraged when they wouldn't take the pellets and they didn't even try with the fresh food, even though they hadbought all the ingredients.

So, normally our freshrecipe which I call our seasonal feeding recipe because there are different recipes that go based on what season you are in.

We just go to the store, we grab the ingredients that we needed for it and we whip it up.

Normally it takes me around 6 hours, not including the daybefore of soaking the beans.

So we do cut some cornersto make this happen.

But I go through and Iteach them how to make my seasonal feeding system and we make that the new priority.

Getting these birds ontoa healthy diet so we actually have a high value treat to work with in the future.

– [Narrator On Screen] They hard boil eggs I think that will really really help, I'm not going to do toomany if these sprouts because I'm scared it'lllook too healthy to them.

So, if you find they really love the sweet potato, here's howyou're going to use it.

You're going to take some of your seasonal feeding system and you're going to mix it together and what's (bird caws) going to happen is thatsweet potato acts as like the binding ingredient.

So instead of looking like this where it's a little bit more apart (bird caws) now it's the thing that binds all the ingredients together.

(bird caws) So when they eat the sweet potato, they're gonna get alittle bit of everything.

And they are going to have to taste that other food in order to getthe food that they want.

Does that make sense? – Yeah – So when they start toeat that sweet potato they're going to tastecarrot, they're going to taste the spinach doesn't evenchange the flavor of this which is why I chose to go with that (bird caws) so I can get greens in them without them being affected, it'skind of like when you put spinach into a smoothie, itdoesn't change the flavor.

So that's what you do, so then you would useless and less each time.

(bird caws) We are going to mix this in.

Let's say your initialthing starts like this, where it looks like it's mostly comprised of sweet potato, the next one would be more like this.

Where you can see that it's not quite as densely sweet potato and it's just less and less and less.

So they're getting more and more veggies, and less and less sweet potato.

It's the same with the eggs.

So you're going to use theeggs in the same texture where you mash them up really good and then you'll do the same mixing.

(microwave beeps) – Okay, so kind of makethat the binding ingredient.

– Alright cool so we havethe one with hard boiled eggs and then we have the one with the yam so we can see which one.

And she was saying thatCho would probably respond better to the one with the eggs.

– [Man] Okay.

– So we can try that.

– [Man] Nice.

– And then I also haveone that has some pellets incorporated in it.

So I was just sayinglike as you understand that the birds like the sweet potato, you can mix the pelletsin and in here it's powdered and whole soyou can see that's like a whole pellet.

(bird caws) And if they take the whole pellets out, you can still see thatthere's powder in this.

So in that piece, lots of powder.

So they are still gettinga flavor for what they like with that addition of a new flavor.

(dishes clanking) – Okay, I'll do that, andwe'll see what he goes for? – [Man] Yeah.

– Okay, so I decided to try both.

We'll see.

(drum music) – You want to try some food? (bird caws) Hey buddy.

Good boy.

Yummy.

– One of the things that I could have done that Ididn't is that I didn't incorporate any seeds or nuts into it.

So it's impressive that he's trying it without any of those.

– Come on, Cho, let's eat man.

– Maybe if you pretend to eat it? – Just actually eat it.

Serve it up man.

– Eggs and veggies.

(laughing) – Why not? Mmm.

(laughing) – It's actually good.

It's sweet.

– Right? – All right.

I got him to eat it.

– Is he eating it? – Good boy.

Good stuff, man.

– He's like hey mandon't eat my breakfast.

(music) – I think for me it was a sense of relief because I was really concernedwith Cho, as far as his eating and his pickiness, and actually seeing that he accepted thechow, kinda like I said, it made the day for me.

If anything, that was, you know, my biggest fear, that he was, you know, going to go backwardsor not eat or get sick or starve to death.

AndI would never be able to get ahead with him.

But now seeing that he did that, I feel a lot better.

– Cool.

– I think for me thatwas it too.

The food.

Just knowing that therewas a way to incorporate the healthier food without him starving, because he was interestedin it and I didn't think he was ever going to dothat.

So that was a success.

– [Man] See, I thoughthe would be the hardest, so if he's going to doit, then the other two will definitely do it oncethe food gets figured out, the diet, then I thinkeverything else that you guys have showed us todayshould fall into place, and as long as we stay consistent, then we should be all right.

– [Interviewer] Do you feellike, once the diet's in place, the value of the treat will be higher? – [Both] Absolutely, yes.

– [Interviewer] And you could see today how it didn't really have a lot of value because the diet's beenoff.

It also shows you why so many people inthe past have just said let's make the bird hungrier.

And how that doesn't actually work.

Itjust damages the relationship but by only giving fresh, healthy stuff, all of a sudden the oneopportunity they ever get to get pine nuts is by being around you, it gets really really powerful.

(laughing) – Just don't want to be bit anymore.

– [Interviewer] Yeah.

So, yeah, eliminating hormones is like number one.

Payattention to all the things that could be potentialtriggers, starting with sleep, big focus on diet, eliminating cage covers, finding that like sleeperroom, sleeper cage, timers.

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